well I answered my own question it was so simple I have to post it so all will know,
you don't remove the slider pins at all you just take a c-clamp and push the cup back into the caliper slowly pushing against the existing brake pads and opposite side of caliper the grab the whole plate that pins are attached to and push it back toward caliper this will give enough room to remove the pads,
wow way to easy I wish cars were this easy also!
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